Bava Kamma 24

Chapter 24

א הא קיימא לן דלא בעינן צבורין
1 Did not Samuel say that if ten fields in ten different countries are sold, as soon as possession is taken of one of them, the transfer of all of them becomes effective?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Kid. 27a. ');"><sup>1</sup></span>
ב אלא מאי אית לך למימר שאני מטלטלי דניידי ממטלטלי דלא ניידי
2 — But even if your reasoning be followed [that it is in accordance with the version reading that slaves are considered personalty], why again the stipulation that the slaves be gathered on the land? Has it not been established that the personalty' need not be gathered on the land? You can therefore only say that there is a distinction in law between movable personalty<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That is to he acquired along with realty; v. Kid. 27a. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ג ה"נ שאני מקרקעי דניידי ממקרקעי דלא ניידי עבדא מקרקעי דניידי הוא התם סדנא דארעא חד הוא:
3 and immovable personalty. Likewise here also [we say] there is a distinction in law between movable realty<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which needs to be gathered on the land. ');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ד נכסים שאין בהן מעילה וכו':
4 and immovable realty: slaves [if realty] are movable realty whereas there [in the case of the ten fields] land is but one block.
ה מעילה הוא דלית בהו הא מקדש קדשי
5 THE [DAMAGED] PROPERTY MUST BE OF A KIND TO WHICH THE LAW OF SACRILEGE HAS NO APPLICATION etc. So long as [the penalty of] Sacrilege does not apply. Who is the Tanna [of this view]? — R. Johanan said: This is so in the case of minor sacrifices according to R. Jose the Galilean, who considers them to be private property; for it has been taught: <i>If a soul sin and commit a trespass against the Lord and lie unto his neighbour</i><span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. V, 21. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ו מאן תנא א"ר יוחנן בקדשים קלים ואליבא דר' יוסי הגלילי דאמר ממון בעלים הוא
6 … this indicates also minor sacrifices,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' E.g., peace offerings, as these belong partly to the Lord and partly to the neighbour; some parts thereof are burnt on the altar but the flesh is consumed by the original owners. ');"><sup>5</sup></span>
ז דתניא (ויקרא ה, כא) ומעלה מעל בה' לרבות קדשים קלים שהן ממונו דברי ר' יוסי הגלילי
7 as these are considered private property;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Pes. 90a. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ח והתנן המקדש בחלקו בין בקדשי קדשים בין בקדשים קלים אינה מקודשת לימא דלא כרבי יוסי הגלילי
8 so R. Jose the Galilean. But, behold, we have learnt: If one betroths [a woman] by means of the priestly portion, whether of major sacrifices or of minor sacrifices, the betrothal is not valid.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Kid. 52b. ');"><sup>7</sup></span>
ט אפי' תימא ר' יוסי הגלילי כי אמר ר' יוסי הגלילי מחיים אבל לאחר שחיטה אפילו רבי יוסי הגלילי מודה דכי קא זכו משלחן גבוה קא זכו
9 Are we to say that this Mishnah is not in accordance with R. Jose the Galilean?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For according to him the flesh is private property and alienable, ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
י ומחיים מי אמר והתנן בכור מוכרין אותו תם חי (ולא שחוט) ובעל מום חי ושחוט ומקדשין בו את האשה
10 — You may even reconcile it with R. Jose the Galilean; for R. Jose the Galilean confines his remark to sacrifices that are still alive, whereas, in the case of sacrifices that have already been slaughtered, even R. Jose the Galilean agrees that those who are entitled to partake of the flesh acquire this right as guests at the divine table.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., as merely invited without having in them any proprietary rights. ');"><sup>9</sup></span>
יא ואמר ר"נ אמר רבה בר אבוה לא שנו אלא בכור בזמן הזה דכיון דלא חזי להקרבה אית להו לכהנים זכייה בגוייהו אבל בזמן שבית המקדש קיים דחזי להקרבה לא
11 But so long as the sacrifice is still alive, does he really maintain that it is private property? Behold, we have learnt: A firstling, if unblemished, may be sold only while alive; but if blemished [it may be sold] both while alive and when slaughtered. It may similarly be used for the betrothal of a woman.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' M.Sh. I, 2. ');"><sup>10</sup></span>
יב ואיתיביה רבא לר"נ ומעלה מעל בה' לרבות קדשים קלים. שהן ממונו דברי ר' יוסי הגלילי
12 And R. Nahman said on behalf of Rabbah b. Abbuha:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Tem. 7b. ');"><sup>11</sup></span>
יג ומשני רבינא בבכור בחו"ל ואליבא דר"ש דאמר אם באו תמימים יקרבו אם באו אין לכתחלה לא
13 This is so only in the case of a firstling at the present time,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When no sacrifices are offered. ');"><sup>12</sup></span>
יד ואם איתא דכי א"ר יוסי הגלילי ממונו הוא מחיים
14 in which, on account of the fact that it is not destined to be sacrificed, the priests possess a proprietary right; but at the time when the Temple still existed, when it would have been destined to be sacrificed, the law would not have been so.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The priests would not have had in it a proprietary right nor have been able to use it for the betrothal of a woman. ');"><sup>13</sup></span> And Raba asked R. Nahman: [Was it not taught:] <i>If a soul sin and commit a trespass against the Lord and lie unto his neighbour…</i><span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev, V, 21. ');"><sup>14</sup></span> this indicates also minor sacrifices, as these are considered private property;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even in Temple times, since the text requires the offender to bring a trespass offering. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> this is the view of R. Jose the Galilean? And Rabina replied that the latter case<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where they are considered private property. ');"><sup>16</sup></span> deals with firstlings from outside [Palestine] and is in accordance with R. Simeon, who maintains that if they were brought [to Palestine] in an unblemished condition, they will be sacrificed.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Tem. III. 5. ');"><sup>17</sup></span> Now this is so only if they were brought [to Palestine, which implies that] there is no necessity to bring them there in the first instance for that specific purpose.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And since they need not be brought and sacrificed they are considered the private property of the priests as stated by R. Jose the Galilean. ');"><sup>18</sup></span> Now, if it is the fact that R. Jose the Galilean considers them private property while alive,